SPN_Darkside Episode Poll: 15.20 Carry On
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15.20 Carry On -- Supernatural series finale.
Writer: Andrew Dabb
Director: Robert Singer
Domestic Winchesters
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Yay! Miracle is there!
29(23.6%)
Why doesn't Sam take Miracle running with him?
11(8.9%)
Love Dean messily straightening up
23(18.7%)
Oooo, sexy Sam
18(14.6%)
Wait, Dean is the cook.
9(7.3%)
Aw, the boys settling in the library to research.
11(8.9%)
This is too good to last
22(17.9%)
Sam hitting Dean with the pie in the face
It's okay. Dean loves pie.
17(22.4%)
Shades of prankster Sam from back in the day
28(36.8%)
Dean finally gets pie -- all the pie.
12(15.8%)
Mm, now I want pie.
1(1.3%)
This is too good to last.
18(23.7%)
The hunt
What the ...?
6(8.1%)
Mime-pires lol
19(25.7%)
More like Jugaloopires
8(10.8%)
What vampires cut out people's tongues
13(17.6%)
Jenny? No way!
10(13.5%)
Two brothers. I get it.
18(24.3%)
The fight
Remember when Dean could kick demon ass?
14(20.0%)
Sam is doing really well
8(11.4%)
That makes me uncomfortable
8(11.4%)
Yes!
8(11.4%)
No!
11(15.7%)
Really? Really?!
21(30.0%)
So that happened
Wouldn't Dean be in a lot more pain?
8(13.8%)
He's made of the toughest stuff
9(15.5%)
It shouldn't have happened this way.
9(15.5%)
Not even killed by a worthy foe.
7(12.1%)
This was unacceptable.
7(12.1%)
This was completely right.
18(31.0%)
The most emotional thing about The Talk
Dean making Sam say "It's okay."
16(16.0%)
Sam saying, "It's okay."
10(10.0%)
Dean telling Sam he is proud of him.
10(10.0%)
Dean talking about the night he picked him up at Stanford.
8(8.0%)
"I love you so much. My baby brother."
11(11.0%)
All of it.
29(29.0%)
I can't even.
16(16.0%)
Dean in Heaven
Yay! Bobby is there to meet him
25(37.9%)
Dean's heaven be a bar?
2(3.0%)
The bar is over yonder.
2(3.0%)
Why doesn't he go see his mom and dad or Ellen and Jo or any number of people?
4(6.1%)
Because it isn't Heaven until Sam joins him.
26(39.4%)
So is Dean grieving in Heaven? Discuss.
7(10.6%)
Sam on earth
Grieving for 30+ years. I can't.
25(25.8%)
At least Sam had Miracle and the Impala
12(12.4%)
Sam got the normal he always wanted
9(9.3%)
He named his son Dean. Stick a fork in me!
19(19.6%)
Was there a woman? There must have been a woman.
4(4.1%)
His son telling him it was okay to go broke my heart.
19(19.6%)
I see Exile on Main Street parallels
6(6.2%)
I see We Need to Talk About Kevin parallels.
3(3.1%)
The series finale was
Perfect!
22(50.0%)
It could have been worse.
6(13.6%)
Loved some, hated some.
9(20.5%)
Meh
4(9.1%)
Hated it
3(6.8%)
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Date: 2020-11-20 08:08 pm (UTC)I'm not going to lie. My first impression was, "It could have been worse." I mean, a lot worse. I completely get why Jensen didn't like it when he first read it. That's not the way he/many of us thought it should be, and I am still trying to get over him dying and Sam being left alone. I posted on tumblr this morning:
Why is no one talking about the decades of grief, the decades of I can’t do it alone, yes you can, so he does. He puts one foot in front of the other. He gets in the Impala and he drives. He drives away from the bunker and never goes back. What made it home isn’t there. He doesn’t hit a dog because he has a dog. He has Miracle. Dean left him with that at least. A reason to live. He hunts. He sees Jody, the girls, Garth and family. Eventually, he does meet a woman. He doesn’t tell her much except that his brother died. Maybe she lost someone too. She doesn’t pry and he doesn’t say much. She lets him grieve and doesn’t make much of the nightmares and tears. Then, there’s a baby. They didn’t plan it that way but they love him. They name him for Dean, and he pours his love into the child. But even that, even this child that he would give his life for doesn’t fill the hole in his chest. Every night he locks the doors, checks the warding, and turns off the lights. Sometimes, he goes to the garage, pulls the tarp off Baby, and gets in the driver’s seat. He took her out one sunny day early on, but he did’t get around the block before he had to pull over, blinded by tears ... After that, he keeps the tags and insurance up but doesn’t take her out. He can’t go home because it is empty. Just like the bunker. He lives in a place he calls home, but it isn’t where the heart is. It isn’t that there isn’t joy in his life. There is. Laughter, smiles, pleasure and every single minute is bittersweet. All of it is tinged with longing and grief. He never tells a living soul that he longs for death or that he lives for someone else -- a promise that he has to keep and, yes, for them because he understands what is to lose someone you love -- but not for himself. His heart’s desire, home, is beyond the veil. Waiting.
Why is no one talking about this?
Dean goes to Heaven, goes for a drive, and bam! Sam is with him, but poor Sam ... I do see parallels to Dean living with Lisa and Ben. We can fill in the good times, the love, the keeping busy, but we know there is unbearable grief, nightmares (cause still traumatized, still a hunter). I also see the Amelia and Rowdy parallel except the Impala isn't wrecked and Sam already has Miracle. There is a lot of history there for the writers to lean on, and they need it because what they give us in that episode is very sketchy. One thing we can be sure of, I think, from Sam's history is that he isn't okay. He is strong and smart and he will do his best, but he isn't okay. And happy as he might be in any given moment, there is a huge hole in his chest where his brother lived.
And something that occurred to me as I was writing the poll is that question about why Dean didn't go see his mom and dad or anyone besides Bobby? Clearly, he was waiting for Sam? But why? Is he grieving? Is he lonely without Sam? I know Bobby said time passes differently in Heaven. Maybe it seemed like a short drive. Maybe Dean didn't want to experience anything without Sam. So he just drove ... kind of like Sam.
So, am I happy with this episode? It could have been worse.
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Date: 2020-11-20 09:29 pm (UTC)Your Tumblr post is heartbreaking and beautiful <3 Thanks for sharing it.
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Date: 2020-11-20 10:46 pm (UTC)Dean not getting to live a life and of Sam having to live his life without Dean
Exactly. I saw a post that said the papers on Dean’s desk was a job application so he was planning a life outside hunting.
It’s a tragic ending no two ways about it, but at least the were together in the end.
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Date: 2020-11-21 08:19 pm (UTC)