SPN_Darkside Episode Poll: 15.20 Carry On

[sylsdarkplace]

15.20 Carry On -- Supernatural series finale.
Writer: Andrew Dabb
Director: Robert Singer

Domestic Winchesters

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Yay! Miracle is there!

29(23.6%)

Why doesn't Sam take Miracle running with him?

11(8.9%)

Love Dean messily straightening up

23(18.7%)

Oooo, sexy Sam

18(14.6%)

Wait, Dean is the cook.

9(7.3%)

Aw, the boys settling in the library to research.

11(8.9%)

This is too good to last

22(17.9%)

Sam hitting Dean with the pie in the face

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It's okay. Dean loves pie.

17(22.4%)

Shades of prankster Sam from back in the day

28(36.8%)

Dean finally gets pie -- all the pie.

12(15.8%)

Mm, now I want pie.

1(1.3%)

This is too good to last.

18(23.7%)

The hunt

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What the ...?

6(8.1%)

Mime-pires lol

19(25.7%)

More like Jugaloopires

8(10.8%)

What vampires cut out people's tongues

13(17.6%)

Jenny? No way!

10(13.5%)

Two brothers. I get it.

18(24.3%)

The fight

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Remember when Dean could kick demon ass?

14(20.0%)

Sam is doing really well

8(11.4%)

That makes me uncomfortable

8(11.4%)

Yes!

8(11.4%)

No!

11(15.7%)

Really? Really?!

21(30.0%)

So that happened

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Wouldn't Dean be in a lot more pain?

8(13.8%)

He's made of the toughest stuff

9(15.5%)

It shouldn't have happened this way.

9(15.5%)

Not even killed by a worthy foe.

7(12.1%)

This was unacceptable.

7(12.1%)

This was completely right.

18(31.0%)

The most emotional thing about The Talk

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Dean making Sam say "It's okay."

16(16.0%)

Sam saying, "It's okay."

10(10.0%)

Dean telling Sam he is proud of him.

10(10.0%)

Dean talking about the night he picked him up at Stanford.

8(8.0%)

"I love you so much. My baby brother."

11(11.0%)

All of it.

29(29.0%)

I can't even.

16(16.0%)

Dean in Heaven

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Yay! Bobby is there to meet him

25(37.9%)

Dean's heaven be a bar?

2(3.0%)

The bar is over yonder.

2(3.0%)

Why doesn't he go see his mom and dad or Ellen and Jo or any number of people?

4(6.1%)

Because it isn't Heaven until Sam joins him.

26(39.4%)

So is Dean grieving in Heaven? Discuss.

7(10.6%)

Sam on earth

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Grieving for 30+ years. I can't.

25(25.8%)

At least Sam had Miracle and the Impala

12(12.4%)

Sam got the normal he always wanted

9(9.3%)

He named his son Dean. Stick a fork in me!

19(19.6%)

Was there a woman? There must have been a woman.

4(4.1%)

His son telling him it was okay to go broke my heart.

19(19.6%)

I see Exile on Main Street parallels

6(6.2%)

I see We Need to Talk About Kevin parallels.

3(3.1%)

The series finale was

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Perfect!

22(50.0%)

It could have been worse.

6(13.6%)

Loved some, hated some.

9(20.5%)

Meh

4(9.1%)

Hated it

3(6.8%)

 

Comments

[sylsdarkplace]

J2's performance was amazing! Although, I suspect it wasn't all performance. After all, they were also saying goodbye to working together every day. They are professionally going their own ways. There were moments that it didn't completely feel like Sam and Dean -- like when Sam says he can't do it alone Dean smiles and says, "yes, you can." I know that is a call-back to Dean saying he can't do it alone in S1. I recall Jensen saying that Jared has been torn up about the end all season, it felt like him reassuring Jared that he can do it alone. That he will be right there with him in his heart. Maybe, I'm completely wrong, but I'm liking this head canon anyway so I'm keeping it.

[sylsdarkplace]

I agree, probably not a lung. That would have caused wheezing and possibly spitting up blood. I'm guessing that he died from internal bleeding, which would have been quicker had Sam moved him. One would think there would have been more visible side effects, but as you say, aesthetics.

[meus_venator]

In the Creation interview on Sunday Jared confirmed that the pie bit actually WAS scripted. And he got to do it several times. : ) And that that WAS Bob Singer added in as a deliberate Easter Egg. Cool!

[sailorhathor.livejournal.com]

It was that gasp that Jensen made that made me think lung, but then he said goodbye to Sam for 2 hours so now I'm not sure. 😂 I thought any second he would spit up blood to indicate serious injury like they always do on tv and such. After looking at Sam's awful old man makeup, maybe they had already blown the makeup budget for the season or kept the makeup people away out of Covid fear? Either way, still obvious Dean got stabbed through something impotant. It wasn't like oh no, my gall bladder.

[sailorhathor.livejournal.com]

😂 It has been added to my list of fics I want to write before Christmas!

[zara-zee.livejournal.com]

No, I agree. There was a lot of Jared and Jensen in that scene, for all the reasons you mention. I think it would have been obvious to fandom, but I hope to GA it just looked like brilliant acting. Because I'd really like them to win an award for their acting!! Maybe a SAG award for Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Drama series...but they'd have to win jointly! Because SamnDean/J2...they come as a pair!

[amypond45.livejournal.com]

I agree with this 100%. It was a normal kind of death for a hunter, not manipulated by Heaven or Hell. As sad as it was, Dean’s death felt really right.

I’m still working through the comments before I figure out what to say, but overall I really loved this as a finale. It felt like the story came full circle and we were reminded in so many ways that this story started with the pilot and it’s Sam’s journey. No wonder Jared loves it so much!

[amypond45.livejournal.com]

Hard agree. I love the notion that it’s possible to watch the pilot, a few episodes through the years and the finale and basically have the whole story.

[amypond45.livejournal.com]

I'm not done responding to all the comments, and I feel like everything that I could say has already been covered, but I'll ramble anyway.

I had very low expectations of the finale, almost didn't watch it because 15x19 felt so perfect, but of course I couldn't resist. I had hoped the boys would end up together, and although I thought I wanted them to either die together or live out their lives together, I was surprised to find how much sense this episode made. I was so sad for Sam, even while I could appreciate intellectually the fact that he not only survived, but found love and joy again after Dean. I couldn't get past feeling like Dean got off easy, driving around Heaven for five minutes until Sam showed up, To me it felt right that he should go down fighting and saving those boys, and at least he did it of his own free will without any manipulations from Heaven or Hell. Yes, it's a tragedy, especially since he was obviously trying to get a job and maybe semi-retire from hunting. When I figured that out, it gutted me. But then I remembered that being gutted is at least part of what I signed up for when I fell in love with this show. Overall, I'm so grateful to the show for giving the boys a fit ending.

And I can see multiple ways to do a reboot or movie, many already mentioned here. I love the idea of Dean Jr. running a hunting ring out of the bunker and just deciding one day that he needs their help and boom!

[amypond45.livejournal.com]

The hoodie Sam was wearing was Dean's? Now I'm crying again!

[amypond45.livejournal.com]

I have to believe the blurry wife was deliberately vague, for all the reasons you point out. I figured he still wore his wedding ring because she died, maybe before that scene when Dean Jr is doing his homework in the diningroom? Certainly by the time of the scene in the Impala in the garage, Sam seemed to be alone, so blurry wife was dead and son had left for college and Sam was reliving his grief for Dean (every loss in his life makes him grieve hard for Dean again). I loved that scene, despite the bad makeup and hair. We really get to see how Sam never stopped grieving his brother.

[meus_venator]

I know. Heartbreaking. At least sylsdarkplace said that Jared confirmed the boys had 5 good post show down years. That’s something.

[zara-zee.livejournal.com]

Yes, this ended up being my head canon as well. The emotional wreck that I was in the immediate aftermath of the finale just wanted a bit more guidance as to what happened to Sam after Dean died, but leaving it vague and letting us fill in the gaps ourselves was probably the right call!

[roxymissrose.livejournal.com]

I'm still trying to deal with this--I feel more depressed about the end of my Show instead of less as time goes on.

Today, though, it occurred to me while showering--all the best thinking takes place in a shower--that the reason why I liked this ending was because it was pretty much like all my own endings. Some happiness, some sadness, but rarely any end being neat and tidy because nothing ever is neat and tidy.

That's what I liked about the end. It came full circle, and we were reminded that as much as we love Dean, like you say it had always been *Sam's* journey, and to me that ending finally acknowledged that--maybe not in the way some folks wanted, but it worked for me. :)